“Without people….I cannot go forward, I cannot stand alone.” Pazi (Gambia) has found his pace living in Rome now after almost three years since his rescue and reception on Lampedusa. In this conversation, he speaks with perspective about what he needs to live the life he wants. He pursues it in spite of racial discrimination and false perceptions perpetuated by media, and with the goal of not going it alone. Recorded in May 2019.